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same with karl rove, now coming out of the closet. we know his adopted father is believed to have been gay. what's worse exploying the big gory of others to increase your own power or being a big got? >> it's all calculations. this topic relates back to the gun topic congress can't get it passed while americans die because it's a political calculation. john: i love that you go back to the gun topic lee. brilliant. >> i think it's worse to be calculating about it, but that's the reason the tide is turning is because of that calculation because more americans are coming onboard with gay rights and the republican party are learning that homophobic stances don't fly with post americans. >> if the gop embraces most americans, where are the haters going to go? >> you just join the tea party i guess. i feel like the republican party right now is me when i was 13 years old and listening to michael jackson's man in the mirror. i knew i had to make a change. rob portman came out like pro gay marriage, did you not say anything. right now they're
same with karl rove, now coming out of the closet. we know his adopted father is believed to have been gay. what's worse exploying the big gory of others to increase your own power or being a big got? >> it's all calculations. this topic relates back to the gun topic congress can't get it passed while americans die because it's a political calculation. john: i love that you go back to the gun topic lee. brilliant. >> i think it's worse to be calculating about it, but that's the...
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joining me now are the democratic strategist joe trippi and former bush senior advisor karl rove. welcome to you both. >> good to be with you. >> shannon: the process is in motion for the first time in several years. when people vote on these, there are political calculations. we saw that in the senate and the house. >> definitely. one thing that is true we have a process this time. the senate was 50-49. a close vote. look at what the house did with that vote. they voted 261 against it. 35 of them democrats. many are up for re-election in 2014. that was part of calculation. there was 221 je votes and 207 no. but look at what the senate did against that one. not even close. only 4 senators voted for it. 59 voted against it. five were g.o.p. senators. some of the no votes in there. four were senators coming up for re-election in 2014. they are looking for tax increase revenue. house side they want to repeal obamacare. how they bring it together and what is in the two different bills, how they reconcile them, we have a process. that is the good news. the bad news is we are having the
joining me now are the democratic strategist joe trippi and former bush senior advisor karl rove. welcome to you both. >> good to be with you. >> shannon: the process is in motion for the first time in several years. when people vote on these, there are political calculations. we saw that in the senate and the house. >> definitely. one thing that is true we have a process this time. the senate was 50-49. a close vote. look at what the house did with that vote. they voted 261...
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we're living in a different political reality than we were in 2004 when karl rove was beating a different drum. i mean, this issue has changed and republicans are changing with it. >> and yet, aisha, you still have as of the last election, it is very difficult to get through the primary season as a moderate or more left of center republican. >> i mean, it certainly is. but you know, i keep going back to looking at the electorate, what do we need to win as candidates in general. i believe on the issue of marriage equality, this has become a moderate issue, this is an issue about civil rights. most people know that, get that. that's why you see rob portman and others say i may be a republican, but i am coming out in front. even claire mccaskill who had a tough time, thought she would have a tough time in her primary come out and say you know what, this is the right thing to do because this is not about just electoral politics, this is about justice and civil rights for all. when we decided in america, hundreds of years ago, we're going to treat everybody equally, that's what the constitutio
we're living in a different political reality than we were in 2004 when karl rove was beating a different drum. i mean, this issue has changed and republicans are changing with it. >> and yet, aisha, you still have as of the last election, it is very difficult to get through the primary season as a moderate or more left of center republican. >> i mean, it certainly is. but you know, i keep going back to looking at the electorate, what do we need to win as candidates in general. i...
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karl rove signaled there could be a major shift in his party's outlook. >> karl rove, could you imagine a republican candidate saying i'm for gay marriage? >> i could. >> the supreme court begins arguments on it, the legality and one benefit to endorsing the notion with one strategist te telling politico opening up the idea will open up donors around the country. >>> zuckerberg is forming an issues advocacy organization focusing on comprehensive immigration reform. >>> rand paul doesn't want to legalize drugs but doesn't want them to go to jail either. >> the last two presidents could have conceivably been put in jail for drug use. it would have ruined their lives. it got lucky but a lot of poor kids don't get lucky. >> pending senate bill would give judges greater flexibility to work around mandatory minimum sentences for those crimes. >>> claire mccaskill is throwing her support behind same-sex marriage saying it's the right thing to do. >>> president obama will host a seder dinner. he became the first sitting president to hold seder at the executive mansion back in 2009. >>> oscar de
karl rove signaled there could be a major shift in his party's outlook. >> karl rove, could you imagine a republican candidate saying i'm for gay marriage? >> i could. >> the supreme court begins arguments on it, the legality and one benefit to endorsing the notion with one strategist te telling politico opening up the idea will open up donors around the country. >>> zuckerberg is forming an issues advocacy organization focusing on comprehensive immigration reform....
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so i think there's a chance that karl rove might not have been too off on that one. it's perhaps one of the things i agree with karl rove on. >> of course that is exactly what the strategy seems to have been in the last two election cycles is to write off vast swaths of the population. jonathan, i want to talk about the politics of this before we have to go. that is, obviously on the democratic party side, i mean, this is kind of a, you know, no brainer gate issue i would say for someone seeking the nomination on the democratic ticket. on the republican side, though, i'm not sure i agree with karl rove that the person who is their nominee would be an advocate. it certainly seems like it's going to be a much tougher issue in 2016 for someone seeking national office, given the numbers that chad was just talking about. >> very tough for someone on the republican side to not be in favor of marriage equality? >> correct. i mean, given the fund-raising issues. this is an area where republicans are raising a lot of money. it's obviously an area where vast swaths of the popu
so i think there's a chance that karl rove might not have been too off on that one. it's perhaps one of the things i agree with karl rove on. >> of course that is exactly what the strategy seems to have been in the last two election cycles is to write off vast swaths of the population. jonathan, i want to talk about the politics of this before we have to go. that is, obviously on the democratic party side, i mean, this is kind of a, you know, no brainer gate issue i would say for someone...
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bill: carl roeuf karl rove is on "fox news sunday." this topic came up as to whether washington is up to speed on american. senator rand paul. >> i think the legislature is about ten years behind the public. i've introduced amendments to quit sending money t and build bridges here in the united states rather than in egypt. 90% of the people agree with me 80% of my senate disagree with me. bill: do you agree with rand paul on that? >> it's a little more complicated than that. he is correct that the senate is not as responsive to the will of the american people as it should be. for example it continues to spend too much, another point that senator paul has made. on the other hand people in political office need to be leaders as well and they need to explain why, for example, we send military assistance to egypt. we want the egyptian military to you supportive of u.s. policy. when they buy american equipment, when they receive our help they tend to be more supportive of our position. the egypt leader is trying to play both side. if the un
bill: carl roeuf karl rove is on "fox news sunday." this topic came up as to whether washington is up to speed on american. senator rand paul. >> i think the legislature is about ten years behind the public. i've introduced amendments to quit sending money t and build bridges here in the united states rather than in egypt. 90% of the people agree with me 80% of my senate disagree with me. bill: do you agree with rand paul on that? >> it's a little more complicated than...
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and they are opposed to this. >> and real quick, i have to let you go but i have to ask about karl rove saying he can manning the next presidential candidate, republican saying flat out that he is for gay marriage. his response was a question that he was asked, he said he could manning it. >> i guess you theoretically could. marco rubio could end up being that 2016 choice is against gay marriage. when you get to a republican primary season, when everything is on the table. there is tons of back ask forth between candidates, that the candidate in favor of gay marriage, it could be a liability in places like the iowa caucuses and other conservative presidential primaries. >> it is good to see you. >>> coming up, secretary of state john kerry makes an unannounced stop in kabul. sources say he is there to mend fences with afghan's -- afghanistan's president karzai. we'll get a live report from kabul. >>> plus, actor kelsey grammar is again talking about running for office. what is he saying about his multiple marriages? and his drug abuse? just one of those things we thought you should know
and they are opposed to this. >> and real quick, i have to let you go but i have to ask about karl rove saying he can manning the next presidential candidate, republican saying flat out that he is for gay marriage. his response was a question that he was asked, he said he could manning it. >> i guess you theoretically could. marco rubio could end up being that 2016 choice is against gay marriage. when you get to a republican primary season, when everything is on the table. there is...
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karl rove said this on abc, asked about whether or not there could be a republican presidential nominee who supported same-sex marriage. >> karl rove, can you imagine the next presidential campaign a republican candidate saying flat-out, i'm for gay marriage? >> i could. >> he said yes, then changed the subject pretty quickly. do you think it's possible? >> i think what's more likely is you've got a republican fom kno who changes the subject quick. the rank and file republican partivily actually haven't chan too much, it's democrats and independents who have moved. i think what you'll see is republicans accepting if there is same-sex marriage across the country or in many states they won't do anything about it but not themselves come out for it. >> still there's the primary votes and activists don't think this should happen. >> especially in iowa. >> right. >> south carolina. >> in iowa they had a huge problem with it. so, yeah, getting -- the way the republican primary process is set up right now, good luck. >> "wall street journal" polling had 27% of republicans favor this. that's not
karl rove said this on abc, asked about whether or not there could be a republican presidential nominee who supported same-sex marriage. >> karl rove, can you imagine the next presidential campaign a republican candidate saying flat-out, i'm for gay marriage? >> i could. >> he said yes, then changed the subject pretty quickly. do you think it's possible? >> i think what's more likely is you've got a republican fom kno who changes the subject quick. the rank and file...
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. >> karl rove, we see the national rifle association. >> if you say we should keep the mentally ill and criminals from getting guns, yes. but we're talking about in this instance, having a registry if a grandfather wants to give a treasured shotgun to his grandson or granddaughter, he has to register with the government to give that gun to his grandchildren. in addition, senator schumer insists on keeping a registry of guns. the federal government keeping a national registry of gun sales and gun purchases and gun owners. >> but if you don't have records, how does the background check make a difference? >> it does make a difference. right now, i can go into a gun store in texas to purchase a weapon, i go through a background check, they have to ascertain that i don't have a criminal background. and then, i can purchase a gun. why is it's different than that is politics. there could be a lot of mutual agreement found on closing some of these so-called gun show loopholes. we could probably get agreement on a widespread basis of peope saying, you go to a gun show, you pass a check, you
. >> karl rove, we see the national rifle association. >> if you say we should keep the mentally ill and criminals from getting guns, yes. but we're talking about in this instance, having a registry if a grandfather wants to give a treasured shotgun to his grandson or granddaughter, he has to register with the government to give that gun to his grandchildren. in addition, senator schumer insists on keeping a registry of guns. the federal government keeping a national registry of gun...
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rove and got a surprising answer. >> karl rove, can you imagine the next presidential cam paper, a republican candidate saying flat-out, i am for gay marriage? >> i could. he said he may not win or he or she may not win. so something is going on, bishop. >> right. and karl rove is not known for grasping the obvious. right? here, he has grasped the obvious. every demographic group every religious group are now showing a majority of approval for same-gender marriage. it's an astounding thing. never in the history of any civil rights movement have we come so far so fast. and, i would say, even if we achieve full marriage equality and all of the other equal status of citizenship in this country, there would be work to be done. let's remember that when we got the jim crow laws off of the books in the signatures for african-americans, it didn't mean the end of racism. and there will still be anti-gay feeling and sentiment in the country that will need to be worked on. but getting the laws in order, that is an important step forward. >> these are all signs of just about every sector of the economy,
rove and got a surprising answer. >> karl rove, can you imagine the next presidential cam paper, a republican candidate saying flat-out, i am for gay marriage? >> i could. he said he may not win or he or she may not win. so something is going on, bishop. >> right. and karl rove is not known for grasping the obvious. right? here, he has grasped the obvious. every demographic group every religious group are now showing a majority of approval for same-gender marriage. it's an...
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karl rove had something to say. he has a message that will appear later on greta. this is a message. >> god bless bob beckel for standing up on this issue. this was tone death, insensitive, callus and stupid for cbs to do this. they allow themselves to insult every vietnam era and the family and those who cherish the memory of someone lost in the conflict by doing this. i cannot imagine what idiot producer cbs did this. bob was right to stand up and do this. >> eric: can't two times i agree with mccain and karl rove in the one show. >> dana: my worlds are colliding. >> andrea: all of us agree with bob. >> dana: the guy says it's a double u-turn. it's a double mistake. having contestant goes there in the first place. is ignorant or willful. now you add a triple mistake, because instead of saying we meant no offense, and we will be more sensitive in the future. we would never talk about it again. now prime time shows are covering it. i manual iraqi and war vets who will stand with the vietnam veterans saying we'll stand with them. this could happen to us in the futur
karl rove had something to say. he has a message that will appear later on greta. this is a message. >> god bless bob beckel for standing up on this issue. this was tone death, insensitive, callus and stupid for cbs to do this. they allow themselves to insult every vietnam era and the family and those who cherish the memory of someone lost in the conflict by doing this. i cannot imagine what idiot producer cbs did this. bob was right to stand up and do this. >> eric: can't two times...
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which is, you have some people saying look, karl rove. saying our party may move towards this by 2016. there's plenty of people, aka the base of the party who don't think they should ever move that direction. does it divide the party? and where do they wind up? >> i can imagine there's a republican rand paul that would be for gay marriage before 2016, but not many mainstream republicans coming out. i think we're still a few years away from that. it's demographic. a lot of old folks in the republican party that comprise the worker bee base of the gop,thy do the phone calls, they do the envelopes. they are culturally very conservative. very traditional and they're not going to come around to gay marriage at least not in the very near future it may happen down the road, i think you're going to find serious puckbash among the conservative base of the party. who by the way provide a lot of votes to republicans. on this issue. keep in mind, a lot of republicans vote for the party because of the cultural issues, not the fiscal issues. it's not b
which is, you have some people saying look, karl rove. saying our party may move towards this by 2016. there's plenty of people, aka the base of the party who don't think they should ever move that direction. does it divide the party? and where do they wind up? >> i can imagine there's a republican rand paul that would be for gay marriage before 2016, but not many mainstream republicans coming out. i think we're still a few years away from that. it's demographic. a lot of old folks in the...
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karl rove is right. he does not have that appeal. and worse yet is that he has a lot of egg on his face from 2012 including the meltdown in ohio. so if you go past the last victories, last thing we saw from karl rove was a total melt dunn. >> he's right, it's sarah palin. karl rove seems to know his place and he knows it's behind the scenes. that being said, the future of the republican party, the future is with neither. and i think rand paul winner of cpac's straw poll illustrates that. >> we'll see. will cain, lz, thanks for playing today. >> you bet. >>> the opening bell just rang on wall street and guess what, the dow is down just about 79 points right now. al wlis siclisoison kosik is li. what's going on? sdl the dow is off its lows of the session. we did see the dow fall as much as 100. and this is about the tiny island country of cyprus that need as bailout. but this is being watched closely because there is a condition for to get its $13 billion bailout. the proposal on the table here for those who live in cyprus is if you ha
karl rove is right. he does not have that appeal. and worse yet is that he has a lot of egg on his face from 2012 including the meltdown in ohio. so if you go past the last victories, last thing we saw from karl rove was a total melt dunn. >> he's right, it's sarah palin. karl rove seems to know his place and he knows it's behind the scenes. that being said, the future of the republican party, the future is with neither. and i think rand paul winner of cpac's straw poll illustrates that....
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my worry-- and i think one of the paradoxes of this-- if i were karl rove right now i'd be praying for "loving v. virginia. " it takes it off the table and -- >> rose: what is "loving v. virginia?" >> that was the landmark case which finally struck down anti-miscegenation laws in the states that still held them at the same which were still very popular in those states, i have to say, at the time. and what happened until now was that gay marriage was a wedge issue which got the republican votes. increasingly their attachment to being against this and being hostile to gays is losing them generation after generation. >> rose: karl rove would want it to be taken off the table? >> taken off the table and democrats would use it as a wedge issue against them. my view, for what it's worth, is that i want the court to take a rather restrained view on this. i think they should absolutely say one, if your state marriage is valid the federal government has no option but to recognize it. my marriage license in massachusetts is identical to the marriage licenses of every straight person so on what g
my worry-- and i think one of the paradoxes of this-- if i were karl rove right now i'd be praying for "loving v. virginia. " it takes it off the table and -- >> rose: what is "loving v. virginia?" >> that was the landmark case which finally struck down anti-miscegenation laws in the states that still held them at the same which were still very popular in those states, i have to say, at the time. and what happened until now was that gay marriage was a wedge issue...
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karl rove weighs in. bill: doesn't look like spring, does it. heather: not at all. bill: not here. where this massive pileup happened on the highway. we'll tell you how they made out there. heather: i hear they're suing the groundhog because of that. and investigating now underway if syria, seriously, is using chemical weapons or has but some law make he is -- lawmakers here say it is clear they did. president obama says this would be a game-changer. general jack keane is here with his take on this growing crisis. >> you have a government that we believe and we have solid information, by the way the international community believes this, has chemical weapons. has put them in a position to be used on short notice, and i believe, there's a high probability has been used with that whole body over the last two years. hey, our salads. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ male announcer ] how about v8 v-fusion. a full serving of vegetables, a full serving of fruit. but what you taste is the fruit. so even you... could've had a v8. heather: well f
karl rove weighs in. bill: doesn't look like spring, does it. heather: not at all. bill: not here. where this massive pileup happened on the highway. we'll tell you how they made out there. heather: i hear they're suing the groundhog because of that. and investigating now underway if syria, seriously, is using chemical weapons or has but some law make he is -- lawmakers here say it is clear they did. president obama says this would be a game-changer. general jack keane is here with his take on...
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>> i could. >> and that's all karl rove would say. i'm joined by san francisco city town dennis herrera and austin nimox. good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> thank you for having us. >> austin, you heard what karl rove just said. are you on the wrong side of history? >> the only side of history with regard to marriage is the right one regarding the truth. and that really should be decided by the american people. americans have an inevitable and inalienable right to determine our own history and that's really a fundamental aspect of america. we have a massive political debate going on in this country about marriage. and the last thing we need is the supreme court to take this debate away from the american people, print a 50 state solution to the marriage question. that's not what we want. we have democratic institutions for a reason and we need to keep using them as we debate marriage, its meaning and its importance to our society. >> and dennis, prop 8 was approved by voters in california. you want the u.s. supreme court to
>> i could. >> and that's all karl rove would say. i'm joined by san francisco city town dennis herrera and austin nimox. good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> thank you for having us. >> austin, you heard what karl rove just said. are you on the wrong side of history? >> the only side of history with regard to marriage is the right one regarding the truth. and that really should be decided by the american people. americans have an inevitable and...
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what do you think that karl rove is acknowledging this? it. >> well, i think it, like me, he might be optimistic that's the case, that we don't have this play a large role in the primary. but i've got to tell you, kate, i think it might be possible that the question is no longer relevant. nobody asks in a primary or in a political race anymore, are you for or against it interracial marriage? it's no longer a relevant question. and i think the shift on this one issue is growing, increasing the approval so exponentially that by the time 2016 rolls around it may not have the relevan relevancy we see it now. i think the same thing will be true for immigration. the problem may be solved may h republican primary as far as topics than in 2012. >> what do you think, do you agree with anna, same-sex marriage is going to be a non-issue in the republican primary come 2016? >> i don't. first off, it is anna's party, she's probably more right than i am on these things, i'm just speculating. if i'm going to watch a republican analyst, it's going to be a
what do you think that karl rove is acknowledging this? it. >> well, i think it, like me, he might be optimistic that's the case, that we don't have this play a large role in the primary. but i've got to tell you, kate, i think it might be possible that the question is no longer relevant. nobody asks in a primary or in a political race anymore, are you for or against it interracial marriage? it's no longer a relevant question. and i think the shift on this one issue is growing, increasing...
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this weekend, sarah palin slammed karl rove. >> if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in this party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. >> reporter: rove hit back on fox news sunday. >> i say if i did run for office and win, i'd serve out my term. i wouldn't -- i wouldn't leave office midterm. >> reporter: and john mccain recently called rising republican star rand paul a wacko-bird. paul responded at the cpac conference. >> the gop of old has grown stale and moss-covered. [ cheers ] i don't think we need to name any names, do we? >> reporter: now, these divisions have become personal lately in the gop, and i think a way, wolf, we don't normally see. but they're substantive divisions as well. how to tackle the issues like immigration reform, things like same-sex marriage. something that's becoming increasingly popular. and, also, how to tackle women's issues in a way that doesn't repel women, as mitt romney did in november. >> lots of work ahead. thanks very much, brianna for that report. the report, by the way, repaired by the republican national
this weekend, sarah palin slammed karl rove. >> if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in this party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. >> reporter: rove hit back on fox news sunday. >> i say if i did run for office and win, i'd serve out my term. i wouldn't -- i wouldn't leave office midterm. >> reporter: and john mccain recently called rising republican star rand paul a wacko-bird. paul responded at the cpac conference. >>...
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karl rove on abc this morning. the two plans lawmakers will take up when they come back from spring break. the senate budget passed early yesterday. could not be more different than the house version. according to the "new york times," the senate plan calls for nearly $1 trillion in new taxes, modest cuts in government spending but leaves the government with $566 billion in annual deficits over the next ten years. the house plan balances the budget by 2023 with big cuts in domestic spending and major changes to medicare and the tax code. charlie rangel, new york's most famous congressman, is here with me. former chair of the house ways and means committee. start with the chasm between the two plans. is there room for compromise at all between the senate and house plan? >> the major difference is that, obama and most of the country that voted for him really thinks that a time of recession that we're coming out of it that we should be creating jobs and not laying off people just with cuts. that is the difference. the
karl rove on abc this morning. the two plans lawmakers will take up when they come back from spring break. the senate budget passed early yesterday. could not be more different than the house version. according to the "new york times," the senate plan calls for nearly $1 trillion in new taxes, modest cuts in government spending but leaves the government with $566 billion in annual deficits over the next ten years. the house plan balances the budget by 2023 with big cuts in domestic...
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. >> karl rove over the weekend, you have taken a listen no doubt, had this advice for democrats on gun control on nbc. let's listen. >> you want to get something done, stop scaring people. don't say we're keeping a registry of all of the guns. >> stop it. it is not scaring people. >> others are saying who's doing the scaring, gun advocates are ones doing the scaring. who is doing the scaring? >> i think both sides are trying to scare the other, whether it is nra using nanny state bloomberg message or sometimes you see the republicans say yes, they're going to take guns away. the fact of the matter is this law will probably pass when it comes to background checks. the sadder part is that senator reid didn't allow a vote on assault weapons before break. that's the biggest issue in this legislation or supposed legislation that michael bloomberg is looking for. will they probably come to a compromise? yes. is michael bloomberg on the right side of the issue? absolutely. it is problematic making him the face of the issue. he did well in the last year's elections as well as special election
. >> karl rove over the weekend, you have taken a listen no doubt, had this advice for democrats on gun control on nbc. let's listen. >> you want to get something done, stop scaring people. don't say we're keeping a registry of all of the guns. >> stop it. it is not scaring people. >> others are saying who's doing the scaring, gun advocates are ones doing the scaring. who is doing the scaring? >> i think both sides are trying to scare the other, whether it is nra...
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. >> i think actually, karl rove ironically deserves a lot of the credit for it. in 2004, the republican party put a bunch of anti-gay marriage issues on different state ballots to drive out evangelical voters. what it did is it took an issue that had not necessarily been partisan before and turned it into a deeply part son one. that meant that democrats now had to decide whether they were against gay marriage, for gay marriage, for civil unions, against civil unions. as soon as you make the democratic party decide on a civil rights issue, they will shift eventually -- it's going to take some time, but they will eventually get there. what you saw is rapidly over the next several years, the democratic party moved in favor of gay marriage. once gay marriage then became legalized in different states, people went to weddings, people bought gifts, people's relatives and friends started getting married, and they saw that the institution of marriage wasn't any better or worse than it was before this happened. the sky didn't fall, and now you're seeing the polls surge as
. >> i think actually, karl rove ironically deserves a lot of the credit for it. in 2004, the republican party put a bunch of anti-gay marriage issues on different state ballots to drive out evangelical voters. what it did is it took an issue that had not necessarily been partisan before and turned it into a deeply part son one. that meant that democrats now had to decide whether they were against gay marriage, for gay marriage, for civil unions, against civil unions. as soon as you make...
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i'm just saying, we don't need to have a karl rove monopoly this year. what he did in 2002, pretty damn remarkable and also in 2004. he got 2006 completely wrong. >> he has a what not to do litigation, right? >> maybe so. >> i'll say one thing. the way in which karl got things wrong was a problem within the republican party. most republican polsters, almost all, where exactly where he was thinking that mitt romney was going to win. so that problem is a systemic problem. the party got it wrong across the board. >> you know why? because they lived inside their own media bubble. >> i agree wmt. >> at the end of the day, karl rove lived and breathed inside the media/conservative bubble. >> it's hard to find an alternative. it's hard to find someone either a strategist or polster in the republican party who is out there yelling at the rest of the party. you guys are all wrong. it's hard to find somebody who is right within the party. >> you know what i started saying in early september. we were going to lose. >> yeah. >> i got absolutely savaged. i was absolu
i'm just saying, we don't need to have a karl rove monopoly this year. what he did in 2002, pretty damn remarkable and also in 2004. he got 2006 completely wrong. >> he has a what not to do litigation, right? >> maybe so. >> i'll say one thing. the way in which karl got things wrong was a problem within the republican party. most republican polsters, almost all, where exactly where he was thinking that mitt romney was going to win. so that problem is a systemic problem. the...
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i was amused by karl rove's musing on the weekend that he could see the 2016 republican nominee, you know, expressing openly his support for gay marriage. i don't believe -- >> that's funny because rove ran that ohio campaign. 2004. >> right. exactly. i don't believe at this point that that is necessarily going to be the case. my caution is this, to the democrats. not that i'm one to caution democrats too much. but, you know, there's one thing to see a poll that says 58% support this, 80% appoint that. that's not necessarily translated into votes yet. and let's just see how this plays out in a ballot box. remember, state legislatures are acting in a way that's consistent with what they're hearing and seeing from their constituencies in their districts. so let's just be a little bit cautious. i take jonathan capehart, our colleague, to heart when he says, you know, let's be cautious in our optimism and enthusiasm here because the supreme court is one thing. >> i agree. >> the ballot box is something else. >> i want to talk about that. as threatened at the conservatives get in this cou
i was amused by karl rove's musing on the weekend that he could see the 2016 republican nominee, you know, expressing openly his support for gay marriage. i don't believe -- >> that's funny because rove ran that ohio campaign. 2004. >> right. exactly. i don't believe at this point that that is necessarily going to be the case. my caution is this, to the democrats. not that i'm one to caution democrats too much. but, you know, there's one thing to see a poll that says 58% support...
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. >> sean: and we have karl rove two cases before the supreme court regarding gay marriage and the next candidate might support gay marriage. problem? >> yes, it is, two points right back at you, sean, first of all, you're so adorable and you play all of my earnest quotes. i have a lot of jokes in that speech next time start with those. >> sean: you want to pick your own clips? go ahead, go ahead. >> i had a lot of good jokes. and you know, all of my earnest statements and actually-- >> that was a good point you made. >> thank you. and i mean, one of the points i made to them was we keep blowing easy electionings, if we had not blown ten senate elections in the election cycles. the senate would be 56 republicans, 44 democrats. there are categories how we screw up and one is, i'm not really sure, now my least favorite politician in america is john mccain, but in general, i think we should avoid primarying incumbents in our own party that-- or equivalent of incumbent. an exception for primarying a bad republican, an extremely red state. say, arizona. >> sean: you were so chris christie, n
. >> sean: and we have karl rove two cases before the supreme court regarding gay marriage and the next candidate might support gay marriage. problem? >> yes, it is, two points right back at you, sean, first of all, you're so adorable and you play all of my earnest quotes. i have a lot of jokes in that speech next time start with those. >> sean: you want to pick your own clips? go ahead, go ahead. >> i had a lot of good jokes. and you know, all of my earnest statements...
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host: what is the role of people like karl rove in shaping the future of the party? guest: it is whatever the industry wanted to be, no doubt about it. he has been a staple in side of the rnc infrastructure since his days as a college republican in the basement of the building. he is a great tactician, there is no doubt. but what i hear there is that even he recognizes that there has to be a transition now and that some of the old strategies, even the ones that he implemented, have worn out their usefulness and effectiveness in winning elections. the red state blue state model that he created in 2000 is not necessarily the one that is going to win the order of the day. obama changed that in 2004. -- 2012. this generation of 18 to 40 year-old's see the world through less of red and blue and more purple. that is something that we will have to adopt, number one. no. 2, when you are looking at the broader landscape of what he is saying, i would agree, but here is the problem. why not chris christie? when chris christie is not allowed to speak at a national conservative c
host: what is the role of people like karl rove in shaping the future of the party? guest: it is whatever the industry wanted to be, no doubt about it. he has been a staple in side of the rnc infrastructure since his days as a college republican in the basement of the building. he is a great tactician, there is no doubt. but what i hear there is that even he recognizes that there has to be a transition now and that some of the old strategies, even the ones that he implemented, have worn out...
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on abc's "this week" karl rove echoed its concerns. >> if there's one thing that scares a lot of people that believe in the second amendment is the federal government keeping a national registry. >> reporter: the senate is expected to vote on what is left of gun control legislation when it returns from recess in april. the assault weapons ban has been dropped from the senate package. >> thank you, jim. >>> let's go to cecilia vega now. >> good to be here. breaking news overnight affecting your money in the stock market. this time it's good news. after frantic last-minute negotiations, leaders have agreed to bail out cyprus which would prevent it from going bankrupt. under terms of the $13 billion deal, one major bank is being forced to close. and only the wealthiest account holders will lose funds. >>> despite what is being called a spirited discussion, secretary of state john kerry has failed to win any agreement from iraq after a surprise visit to baghdad on sunday. kerry warned the iraqis to stop allowing iran to use air space for flights into syria. the u.s. believes the flights are
on abc's "this week" karl rove echoed its concerns. >> if there's one thing that scares a lot of people that believe in the second amendment is the federal government keeping a national registry. >> reporter: the senate is expected to vote on what is left of gun control legislation when it returns from recess in april. the assault weapons ban has been dropped from the senate package. >> thank you, jim. >>> let's go to cecilia vega now. >> good to be...
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one is that the kind of conversion, the pragmatic political conversion of the karl roves of the world who can read an exit poll who says we can't win national elections losing 75-25. can't do it. but then what's interesting to me is when i covered the 2007 fight, you know, those office switch boards were flooded every right-wing talk show host every day was in the weed of everything on mccain-kennedy. there was this massive genuine grassroots backlash and you saw it in town halls. very tea party stuff. gary you covered this. why are things different because that to me is i..ing. pragmatic calculation on behalf of the republican elite i get. >> there's a sense they love, the right loves power more than it hates immigrants. that's the point. if they carry on doing this they will lose and there are so many other things at stake if they lose that they can't carry on in their way. so there's that sense of inevitabilitity forces a reconing. there was a time in the '60s when no one would engage, a large part of the population wouldn't engage with civil rights. then they said we have to find
one is that the kind of conversion, the pragmatic political conversion of the karl roves of the world who can read an exit poll who says we can't win national elections losing 75-25. can't do it. but then what's interesting to me is when i covered the 2007 fight, you know, those office switch boards were flooded every right-wing talk show host every day was in the weed of everything on mccain-kennedy. there was this massive genuine grassroots backlash and you saw it in town halls. very tea...
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karl rove, former chief advisor, deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and fox news contributor. good morning to you and welcome back. >> good morning, bill. bill: we'll get to cvs in a moment. you bought your whiteboard because you've been tracking health care premiums since obamacare was signed into law. what have you found? >> well, this is important. this is why cvs is trying to do this. the law is pushing up the premiums that are being paid by employers and their workers. and, companies as a result are looking for every piece in the law that gives them a chance to try to restrain that growth. in 2009, before the affordable care act the average, average cost of a health insurance for family of four was 13,375. 2010, it jumped to 13,770. a 1.7% increase. that is the year the law got passed. the next year it had a $103 premium increase, jumping to $15,000. last year it was 672, up 4 1/2%. now remember, companies now are paying an average, the companies pay most of this cost. they're paying an average of $11,429 out of that $15,745 that is being, t
karl rove, former chief advisor, deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and fox news contributor. good morning to you and welcome back. >> good morning, bill. bill: we'll get to cvs in a moment. you bought your whiteboard because you've been tracking health care premiums since obamacare was signed into law. what have you found? >> well, this is important. this is why cvs is trying to do this. the law is pushing up the premiums that are being paid by employers and their...
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an example, yesterday republican adviser karl rove said in the next election he could see pub one of the republican candidates favoring same-sex marriage. >> we will be covering a lot next week. thank you very much. >>> an apology from the irs over a training video that parodied star trek and paid for by taxpayer money. kelly o'donnell is in washington with more on that story. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. well, anytime your tax money is wasted, it's frustrating but especially so when it is the irs that's accused of poor judgment. a congressional committee found this star trek spoof didn't have any training value in it at all. to boldly go hollywood. ♪ the irs spent $60,000. >> captain log. >> reporter: making two videos including this elaborate "star trek" parody. >> sorry about the uniforms, the dry cleaner gave us the wrong order. >> how fast can you get out of here. >> reporter: and of course mr. spock. but they aren't actors. no they are the tax men. >> russia, i dream someday i'd be rich and famous. >> me too. that's why i became a public servant. >> reporte
an example, yesterday republican adviser karl rove said in the next election he could see pub one of the republican candidates favoring same-sex marriage. >> we will be covering a lot next week. thank you very much. >>> an apology from the irs over a training video that parodied star trek and paid for by taxpayer money. kelly o'donnell is in washington with more on that story. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. well, anytime your tax money is wasted, it's...